Why New York Is Repealing Its Ban On Conversion Therapy | NBC News Now

PRACTICE. WHY? WHY? NBC BROUGHT IN SOME EXPERTS TO NBC BROUGHT IN SOME EXPERTS TO HELP EXPLAIN. HELP EXPLAIN.>>Reporter: CONVERSION.


PRACTICE. WHY? WHY? NBC BROUGHT IN SOME EXPERTS TO NBC BROUGHT IN SOME EXPERTS TO HELP EXPLAIN. HELP EXPLAIN.>>Reporter: CONVERSION THERAPY>>Reporter: CONVERSION THERAPY IS THE CONTROVERSIAL PRACTICE OF IS THE CONTROVERSIAL PRACTICE OF TRYING TO CHANGE A PERSON’S TRYING TO CHANGE A PERSON’S SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR GENDER SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR GENDER IDENTITY. IDENTITY. WASHINGTON, D.C. AND A NUMBER OF WASHINGTON, D.C. AND A NUMBER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE PROHIBITED LICENSED MENTAL PROHIBITED LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS FROM PROVIDING HEALTH PROVIDERS FROM PROVIDING THIS SERVICE TO MINORS. THIS SERVICE TO MINORS. NEW YORK CITY PASSED ONE OF THE NEW YORK CITY PASSED ONE OF THE COUNTRY’S MOST EXPANSIVE COUNTRY’S MOST EXPANSIVE CONVERSION THERAPY BILLS IN 2017 CONVERSION THERAPY BILLS IN 2017 AND ENACTED IT IN APRIL 2018. AND ENACTED IT IN APRIL 2018. UNLIKE THE OTHER EXISTING BANS, UNLIKE THE OTHER EXISTING BANS, NEW YORK CITY’S BANS THE NEW YORK CITY’S BANS THE PRACTICE ON CONSENTING ADULTS, PRACTICE ON CONSENTING ADULTS, IN ADDITION TO MINORS. IN ADDITION TO MINORS. NOW NEW YORK CITY’S BAN IS BACK NOW NEW YORK CITY’S BAN IS BACK IN THE NEWS BECAUSE THE CITY IN THE NEWS BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL IS TRYING TO REPEAL IT. COUNCIL IS TRYING TO REPEAL IT. THE MOVE COMES AMID FEARS THAT THE MOVE COMES AMID FEARS THAT IF A LAWSUIT FILED EARLIER THIS IF A LAWSUIT FILED EARLIER THIS YEAR BY CONSERVATIVE LEGAL YEAR BY CONSERVATIVE LEGAL GROUP, ALLIANCE DEFENDING GROUP, ALLIANCE DEFENDING FREEDOM, REACHES THE SUPREME FREEDOM, REACHES THE SUPREME COURT, IT COULD HAVE COURT, IT COULD HAVE CONSEQUENCES REACHING FAR BEYOND CONSEQUENCES REACHING FAR BEYOND NEW YORK CITY. NEW YORK CITY. THE LAWSUIT FILED ON BEHALF OF A THE LAWSUIT FILED ON BEHALF OF A BROOKLYN-BASED THERAPISTS CLAIMS BROOKLYN-BASED THERAPISTS CLAIMS NEW YORK CITY’S BAN IS NEW YORK CITY’S BAN IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, SAYING IT, UNCONSTITUTIONAL, SAYING IT, AMONG OTHER THINGS, VIOLATES THE AMONG OTHER THINGS, VIOLATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT’S PROTECTION OF FIRST AMENDMENT’S PROTECTION OF FREE SPEECH. FREE SPEECH. WE SPOKE TO DALE CARPENTER, A WE SPOKE TO DALE CARPENTER, A CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR AT CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR AT SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY. SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY. HE WALKED US THROUGH SOME HE WALKED US THROUGH SOME CONCERNS WITH NEW YORK CITY’S CONCERNS WITH NEW YORK CITY’S CONVERSION THERAPY BANS. CONVERSION THERAPY BANS. HAVE WE SEEN THE SUPREME COURT HAVE WE SEEN THE SUPREME COURT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN ADULTS AND DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN ADULTS AND CHILDREN IN A FREE SPEECH CASE CHILDREN IN A FREE SPEECH CASE THAT MAY BE SIMILAR TO THIS ONE? THAT MAY BE SIMILAR TO THIS ONE?>>THE CLASSIC CASE OF THIS IS>>THE CLASSIC CASE OF THIS IS ADVERTISEMENT. ADVERTISEMENT. THE COURT HAS SAID THE STATE CAN THE COURT HAS SAID THE STATE CAN PLACE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON PLACE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON ADVERTISING DIRECTED AT CHILDREN ADVERTISING DIRECTED AT CHILDREN BUT COULD NOT PLACE SIMILAR BUT COULD NOT PLACE SIMILAR RESTRICTIONS ON ADVERTISING THAT RESTRICTIONS ON ADVERTISING THAT IT’S DIRECTED AT ADULTS AND IT’S DIRECTED AT ADULTS AND THAT’S UNDER THE THEORY THAT THE THAT’S UNDER THE THEORY THAT THE STATE WANTS TO PREVENT HARM TO STATE WANTS TO PREVENT HARM TO ADULTS BUT IT CAN’T PREVENT THAT ADULTS BUT IT CAN’T PREVENT THAT KIND OF HARM TO ADULTS. KIND OF HARM TO ADULTS. IT’S FOR ADULTS TO DECIDE FOR IT’S FOR ADULTS TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT KIND OF THEMSELVES WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION THEY’RE GOING TO INFORMATION THEY’RE GOING TO GET. GET.>>IN THE CASE OF ALLIANCE>>IN THE CASE OF ALLIANCE DEFENDING FREEDOM HAS BROUGHT DEFENDING FREEDOM HAS BROUGHT FORTH IN FEDERAL COURT ON BEHALF FORTH IN FEDERAL COURT ON BEHALF OF PLAINTIFF DAVID SCHWARTZ, OF PLAINTIFF DAVID SCHWARTZ, DAVID SCHWARTZ IS AN ORTHODOX, DAVID SCHWARTZ IS AN ORTHODOX, JEWISH THERAPIST WHO SAYS HE JEWISH THERAPIST WHO SAYS HE TREATS FELLOW ORTHODOX JEWISH TREATS FELLOW ORTHODOX JEWISH CLIENTS. CLIENTS. DOES THE FACT THAT THE CASE DOES THE FACT THAT THE CASE MENTIONED RELIGION MAKE ANY MENTIONED RELIGION MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE? DIFFERENCE?>>WELL, IN SOME CASES THE COURT>>WELL, IN SOME CASES THE COURT HAS SUGGESTED THAT THE HAS SUGGESTED THAT THE COMBINATION OF THE RELIGIOUS COMBINATION OF THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ACT, THE FREE EXERCISE FREEDOM ACT, THE FREE EXERCISE ACT IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT ACT IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT AUGMENTED THE CONSTITUTIONAL AUGMENTED THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT THAT CAN BE CLAIMED BY RIGHT THAT CAN BE CLAIMED BY THIS THERAPIST. THIS THERAPIST. IT’S NOT CLEAR TO ME, HOWEVER, IT’S NOT CLEAR TO ME, HOWEVER, THAT BY ITSELF THAT KIND OF THAT BY ITSELF THAT KIND OF CLAIM WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL. CLAIM WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL. I THINK IT’S MORE THE FREE I THINK IT’S MORE THE FREE SPEECH CLAIM THAT WOULD PROBABLY SPEECH CLAIM THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SUCCESSFUL. BE SUCCESSFUL.>>ROGER BROOKS OF THE ALLIANCE>>ROGER BROOKS OF THE ALLIANCE DEFENDING FREEDOM COMMENDED NEW DEFENDING FREEDOM COMMENDED NEW YORK CITY’S EFFORTS TO REPEAL YORK CITY’S EFFORTS TO REPEAL ITS BAN. ITS BAN. WE SPOKE TO THE TREVOR PROJECT’S WE SPOKE TO THE TREVOR PROJECT’S SAMUEL BRINTON. SAMUEL BRINTON.>>HI.>>HI.>>HE UNDERWENT CONVERSION>>HE UNDERWENT CONVERSION THERAPY AS A MINOR AND HAS BEEN THERAPY AS A MINOR AND HAS BEEN A LONG-TIME PROPONENT OF LAWS A LONG-TIME PROPONENT OF LAWS BANNING THE PRACTICE. BANNING THE PRACTICE. NEW YORK CITY IS TRYING TO NEW YORK CITY IS TRYING TO REPEAL A CONVERSION THERAPY BAN REPEAL A CONVERSION THERAPY BAN THAT WAS JUST IN EFFECT STARTING THAT WAS JUST IN EFFECT STARTING LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHY NEW YORK CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHY NEW YORK CITY MAY BE TRYING TO REPEAL IT? CITY MAY BE TRYING TO REPEAL IT?>>THE ACTION TAKEN BY NEW YORK>>THE ACTION TAKEN BY NEW YORK CITY ARE GOING TO SAVE EVEN MORE CITY ARE GOING TO SAVE EVEN MORE LIVES. LIVES. THE CITY IS BEING INTELLIGENT IN THE CITY IS BEING INTELLIGENT IN SAYING, WE’RE GOING TO — SAYING, WE’RE GOING TO — INSTEAD OF SPENDING RESOURCES ON INSTEAD OF SPENDING RESOURCES ON A FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT, WE’RE GOING A FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT, WE’RE GOING TO SPEND THOSE RESOURCES SAVING TO SPEND THOSE RESOURCES SAVING YOUNG LBGT LIVES, AS MANY AS WE YOUNG LBGT LIVES, AS MANY AS WE CAN. CAN.>>CORY JOHNSON, THE SPEAKER OF>>CORY JOHNSON, THE SPEAKER OF THE NEW YORK CITY COUNCIL CALLED THE NEW YORK CITY COUNCIL CALLED IT A PAINFUL DECISION. IT A PAINFUL DECISION. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU’RE SAYING YOU IT SEEMS LIKE YOU’RE SAYING YOU AGREE WITH THIS DECISION TO AGREE WITH THIS DECISION TO REPEAL IT. REPEAL IT. IT’S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE IT’S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING DONE TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING STATE BANS ON YOUTH IN STATE BANS ON YOUTH IN PARTICULAR? PARTICULAR?>>THE COURTS ARE NOT>>THE COURTS ARE NOT NECESSARILY IN A SPACE WHERE NECESSARILY IN A SPACE WHERE THEY WILL BE AS SUPPORTIVE OF THEY WILL BE AS SUPPORTIVE OF LGBTQ RIGHTS. LGBTQ RIGHTS. IT’S THE PRUDENT DECISION TO IT’S THE PRUDENT DECISION TO REMOVE LITIGATION AND RELY ON REMOVE LITIGATION AND RELY ON LIES THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE THE LIES THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT TWICE AND UPHELD. SUPREME COURT TWICE AND UPHELD. THESE LAWS ARE MOVING AT THESE LAWS ARE MOVING AT MONUMENTAL PACE. MONUMENTAL PACE. THIS DECISION HAPPENS AT A TIME THIS DECISION HAPPENS AT A TIME THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED IN THE THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED IN THE AMOUNT OF WORK BEING DONE ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK BEING DONE ON THE WORK TO END CONVERSION THERAPY. WORK TO END CONVERSION THERAPY.>>YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION,>>YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION, THE TREVOR PROJECT, FIRST THE TREVOR PROJECT, FIRST SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON CONVERSION THERAPY BANS FOR CONVERSION THERAPY BANS FOR YOUTH. YOUTH. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHY YOU’RE CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHY YOU’RE SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON THE SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON THE PRACTICE ON MINORS? PRACTICE ON MINORS?>>WE’VE GOT TO PROTECT THOSE>>WE’VE GOT TO PROTECT THOSE THE MOST VULNERABLE. THE MOST VULNERABLE. THAT’S WHY THE TREVOR PROJECT THAT’S WHY THE TREVOR PROJECT DOES THIS WORK WITH MINORS. DOES THIS WORK WITH MINORS. TO BE VERY CLEAR, WE RECOGNIZE TO BE VERY CLEAR, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE SERVE YOUTH OVER A WIDE THAT WE SERVE YOUTH OVER A WIDE RANGE. RANGE. WE GET CALLS FROM THOSE IN WE GET CALLS FROM THOSE IN KINDERGARTEN AND CALLS FROM KINDERGARTEN AND CALLS FROM 25-YEAR-OLDS. 25-YEAR-OLDS. THESE ARE A RANGE OF INDIVIDUALS THESE ARE A RANGE OF INDIVIDUALS NOT ALL OF WHICH ARE COVERED BY NOT ALL OF WHICH ARE COVERED BY THE LEGISLATION BUT IT’S REALLY THE LEGISLATION BUT IT’S REALLY IMPORTANT THESE LAWS HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT THESE LAWS HAVE BEEN EDUCATING SO MANY PARENTS TO THE EDUCATING SO MANY PARENTS TO THE HARM OF CONVERSION THERAPY THAT HARM OF CONVERSION THERAPY THAT WE KNOW LESS YOUTH ARE GOING TO WE KNOW LESS YOUTH ARE GOING TO CONVERSION THERAPY. CONVERSION THERAPY. 10,000 LGBTQ YOUTH WILL NO 10,000 LGBTQ YOUTH WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO ACCESS LONGER BE ABLE TO ACCESS CONVERSION THERAPY BECAUSE OF CONVERSION THERAPY BECAUSE OF THESE LAWS. THESE LAWS. I KNOW IF THOSE LAWS WERE I KNOW IF THOSE LAWS WERE EXPANDED TO ADULTS, THAT MIGHT EXPANDED TO ADULTS, THAT MIGHT BE AN EVEN BIGGER NUMBER. BE AN EVEN BIGGER NUMBER. I’M SURE YOU UNDERSTAND, BROOKE, I’M SURE YOU UNDERSTAND, BROOKE, THAT 10,000 YOUNG LIVES NOT THAT 10,000 YOUNG LIVES NOT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE HORRIFYING TORTURE THAT I DID IS HORRIFYING TORTURE THAT I DID IS AN ASTOUNDING SUCCESS THAT WE

21 thoughts on “Why New York Is Repealing Its Ban On Conversion Therapy | NBC News Now”

  1. Why not encourage society to love each other and for men to act and look like men, and women to act and look like women? The farther you stray from the truth, the more problems there will be.

  2. My friend in high school was made to do conversion, then after years, it went to electroshock and antipsychotics. His senior year they found him hanging from a rafter in his grandparents' garage. Our legal system doesn't protect anyone, especially those in most need of it. It protects the people that charged tens of thousands to run high voltage into my friend's head until he couldn't hold his bladder anymore in public. 999/1000 people in this world are sick and stupid.

  3. As a grandfather I intend to apply my own version of conversion therapy if I had a grandson slipping into insanity

  4. "Conversion therapy, the method of trying to change someone’s sexual orientation or gender identity". That sounds like the definition of transgender.

  5. Totally slanted propaganda not news. Rights of Americans are ignored in favor of pushing an agenda. Only one side given free speech here.

  6. let's be real, conversion is a futile attempt. Merely external. Your DNA will always show your birth gender. "T" has no part with LGBQ.

  7. Oh my ! People need Jesus desperately!
    Start reading the bible like if your life depends on it! Because YES your spiritual eternal life depend on it,!
    I know gays that change there way of life because Jesus, is a matter of chose , it is free, as to be, nobody force them. But is working perfectly wen they give their life to Christ.
    And they are living now with " the unspeakable peace and joy that ONLY God can give💝

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